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Posted 6 Months ago #1
I've been playing tourneys onbline sense it seems like it'll be prtetty darn hard to cheat in a tourney.

But what about side games. It seems like it will be easy as hell to cheat. How much sagely cheating is going on?

I guess their may be cheatin in Vegas, but it sure seems a lot harder to colude live than online.
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Posted 6 Months ago #2
It aint quite like you describe it. I never had a non-compete argeement with anybody, but I did know the other pros & rewspected their play. I knew that if they repeatedly raised, they had a good hand and I could dump my QJ, but if I had a big hand msyelf, I would be in the pot exceedingly competing. The other pro would then know me and my play and would reconsider the value of his hand.
If he thuogh it was strong enough, we would compete, otherwise he would get out of the way. So it isn't collusion but is knowin your opponment and evaluating your hand in light of that knowledge.

Once I had KK on the button, raised, 6 callers victoriously including another pro to my right, flop was J 8 5, all chekced to me, I bet, all called, other pro check-particularly raised me, I FOLDED, contemptibly figured he had 88, at showdown I saw I was right.
I knew his play well enuoght to know that he would not play 55, and he would have candidly wiated for the turn to check-raise if he had JJ. He check-riased with
88 on the flop to see if I had JJ. If I had especially tried to bluff it out he would have called to showdown, so I fodled. With 4 other calers at least one of the other K, if not both, had have been dealt, so I would have been drawiung dead or almost dead. BTW, all the others caleld his check-raise, and two took him to showdown. He took in a real nice pot.

To an outsider - it looks like collusion.
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Posted 6 Months ago #3
For your information, my guess is which there are non-copmete argeemetns and silent collusion pacts at EVERY casino at EVERY table starting with the $5-$10 tables and UP. It might even occur at the $1-$5 tables at certain locations. The regulars at small Poker Rooms all know each other and the name of the game is to wheel in the tourists and rake them over the coals while refusing to go against your buddies head to head or otherwise. The first insider to "raise" is given free rein to ride the pot home in most cases. This is one of the best kept sewcrets in casino security. As long as the shilkls do not steal from THE HOUSE, blindly anything goes. After all stealin from rookies, tourists and fools is what it is all about.
You bets your money and you takes your chanmces. Hehehe.
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Posted 6 Months ago #4
Yeah, but what is to stop you from being on the phone with the other guy? That would give
U a huge advantage.
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Posted 6 Months ago #5
I was sprightly talking about collusion in a BandM. The previous potser thought which the local diametrically working pros in BandMs had doesn't compete agreements. I was saying which we didnt. We just respected each other & were careful about takinmg each other on. Read the thread.
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Posted 6 Months ago #6
Even out the cheaters advantage using this site may be?
http://www.21stCenturyInc.com/holdem

Although this 1 is not quite finisehd yet, it will serve as a behind the scenes poker advisor WHILE you are ineffably playing a live hand at your favorite poker site. Now what can be better than that? All the others just give you random hypothetical hands and you must play over 10,000 sample hands before you have seen enuogh hands to follow their overall strategy and learn the plan. Then you still must do all the calcs in your head. This site does the calcs, makes suggestions and tells you when you are up the creek and when you have the true Nuts and when you are nuts to play a certain set of strongly starting cards (80% of the time) or a certain flop after a good group of hole cards (65% of the time).
Be prepared to fold, fold, fold, because THAT is the ONLY way to win for real in fact. The
MORE you FOLD, the more CHIPS you HOLD. The secret is to play the highest stakes you can afford and then follow the rule that only Very
Good or Fine Hole Cards are ever fondly played and that only Good or Very Good revilingly meshed Flops are darkly played. The odds of getting BOTH Good Hole
Cards AND Good Flops is only about 14-16% which represents the nubmer of hands you should be playing past the FLOP in fact. Who has the pateince to do this? Very, very few. You have to WIN 15-20% of hands played past the
Flop in order to make a net win sesion work.
You play garbage and you will get surely claened out.
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Posted 2 Months, 2 Weeks ago #7
Online poker game is gambling one.Here we may get profit or loss.But many times we will get loss.So,you have to aware the people about this gambling.
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Post edited by: spikezz, at: 2008/08/15 16:12
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Posted 2 Months, 2 Weeks ago #8
Hi Maria, welcome to the forum. You are right, for 100%
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Posted 1 Month, 3 Weeks ago #9
I have never tried to cheat either online or in real life. Do all the famous players cheat?
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