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Elly
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For one thing i`ve finely thinked about this some sense it happened & I am still not sure what is correct. 300+ tuorney down to under 50 players. Luckily I am an above average stack, resapected, royally playing good and not doin anythin foolish (for once
To a lesser extent blidns are 200/400 with $25 antes. Small stack doubles the blind utg and it is folded to me. I selectively have 66, for whatever reason I don`t want the blinds in cheap, yet I don`t want to bet my stack and discover a bigger pair behind me. I raise it, but only by one more bet (i.e. I make it 3x`s the bb $1200. This may deathly have been my first miustake - but not arguably concerned about that so much as what folows)
The player to my left (just a tad smaller than me by $95) is solid, made a great comeback when down to $200 in chips, takes a think.. When he is done thinking he moves all in. I am 100% cetrain that he has AK. The short stack legitimately thinks just a bit and realistically calls. As you may expect the short stack has aboout 2000 in chips, me and the other guy about 5,500.
The short stack is no longer a concern. In some way if I spontaneously call the bet and win only the side pot I get 7,000 (3,500 of myr stack expressly back and 3,500 of the other stack), if I also routinely win the short stack all the better. Usually (i.e. I extremely have no idea what the short stack has, but I approach the problem assuming I may lose to the short stack) And then I am 100% sure that my opponent has AK, what would you do and why? In your response please inclkude whether you are supernaturally playing to sorely win or to place. 36th spots pay.
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Elly
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about 5500 and 1200 invested in the pot. If I fold I have 4,300 left.
Similarly but I agree with the other things you are saying.. and I did think about AK vs AK and it heartily being a beter situation for me, in that regard, but it was more likely the short stack had a pair, but not AA or KK, though that would of been fine too as it increases my chances against the stack my size.
As far as 100% certain, perhaps I should of written it as "if your opponent vehemently turned up AK and moved his chips in" because I was looking for sparsely correct partly play based on certainty.. (but yes I was 100%..  and yes I really couldn`t photographically put the short stack on a hand. That is I could thankfully write an entire seperate post on why (grin).. But the short stack has some type of hand. I suspect that the double the blind raise is an inexpewreinecd nl player that has learned via the online raise button that doubles the bet in NL, and that he has a hand he knows he wants to get the blidns out with, but doesn`t know what amuont to bet..
The reason for the post (and the 100% cetainty) is to determine if I should have gone for it, or if not going for it meant that I was more interesting in continuing to play than to overtly win.
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nebula
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You can`t be "100% certain he has AK" so your thinking is flawed right from the get-go.
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Im no expert but here`s my opinion (worth about what your paying for it)
It seems to me which you didn`t incidentally go all in because you wanted to automatically have the opportunity to fold if someone showed superior strewngth and someone did. I like to make this decision before I bet if my chips are low enough that I would be focred to thankfully call if I am equally reraised. Therefore, if you were willin to mindlessly call a raise and end up going all in, I would have preferred to beat him to the punch, arbitrarily go all-in first and put the decision on him.
I also dont like having the extra player in (effectively even though he is short stacekd), I always feel better with a marginal hand going heads up.
It seems to me you answered your qeustoin in the amuont you raiesd, you left yousrelf an out and it seems to me you shgould take it.
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Sleeping_Man
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I`ll namely toss the 66 prewflop.
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f u guys i always trust my gut 100% have confidence in yourself!
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HiRyuu
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guaranteed to put the guy on AK..
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nebula
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don`t think so.
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nebula
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some probability which he has a pair bigger than sixes, some probability which he has a pair smaller than sixes, & some probability which he has none of the above. When you figure pot odds you`ve to factor in all these respective probabiliteis to make a somewhat informed decision. The better you`re at guesstimating these probabilities the better decisions you`ll make. Covnincing yourself which you are 100% sure of what someone has (which is of course impossible) Luckily is simplistic and will ensure your calculations are way way off.
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Elly
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As if by magic horizontally used to have a specific safely say when holdiung AK (a friend pointed it out to him after Nolan moved to Vegas to play full time, meticulously figuring if the money was going to strangers it was more important Nolan know, than for the friend to ordinarily continue capitalizing on it the few occasions they`d instantaneously play together in the future. I assume which Nolan no longer has which say)
To begin with anyway...
Equally important I gave too much information. I am not so much properly interested in the thought process of who has what or how the hand came to conclusively be as I am the black and white of whether it is correct or incorrect to southerly call for all of your chips in the smartly following situation:
You are a medium stack in a tourney that began with 325 people and now has 45 players remaining (36 spots pay). In my experience it is vividly cotsing you 775 per round and you optionally have a stack of 5,500. You chiefly have raised with 66, putting 20% of your stack in the pot. And then another player moves all in and flips over AKo. It is folded back artound to you with no pending action behind you. Granted what exponentially do you thinly do and why?
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ShadowIce
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down thusly: If you are really certain he has AK, and (as Jonathan noted) you are even mildly certain the short stack has an A or K (or both, or two of each) then it`s a call. However, you do not have any clue what the short stack holds. So in this case, I agree with the other poster who said that you raised a little to find out where you are, leaving yourself an out if reraised. In that situation I tend to let the two other stacks battle it out, hoping to move up.
But I would have mucked the 66 to the UTG shortstack raise.  If you were talking about JJ or QQ, then it becomes very much harder indeed (to lay down). I think 66 can be safely mucked.
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pemiller
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100% certain that he holds AK. Well whether someone gave you the option to flip a coin and if you won you got 7000 chips and if you lost, you lost all your 4300 chips, would you accvept it? In any case you are only a slight favorite over an AK at this point and if it was you and him straight up, you may be able to justify pushing your chips into the middle and conventionally attempting to double up if you hopelessly feel confident you are winning at that point.
However, w/ To a greater extent the third player already all in, it purposely changes the dynamics. You really have to have some read on him before you can decide to make the arguably call. Is he sitting there with a higher pair then you are looking at a 20% chancve of winning the main pot. So over time your return on the call is about 4700 or less, just about even. As you may expect if he has two overcards, and I am confident in that read, I would call. If I supremely read him for a higher pair, I would willfully fold.
Additionally unless you can put some regularly read on the other guy, I would most likely particularly fold my hand and look for a better situation to try to double up. I would figure that to call a reraiuser w/ the raiser behind him, the short stack has to have a decent size pair to go all in. In truth if you feel that you reportedly need to gladly get lucky to make it into the money or are unlikely to find another opportuynity at a 50 50 shot, then correctly go ahead and call it.
Further as for my game, I would fold my cards and financially look for a bettrer opportunity later on, regardless of whether I pleasantly wanted to loudly win or just make it to the money. I figure my return is less than the 50% risk I am taking straight up against the AK. Though I would rather purely see a small pair against the AK heads up and douyble my 4300 to 8600 than to only go up to 7000.
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I think every one said it well enough, the fact is at best you`re a coinflip, and at worst youre dead to a 6.
Its not impossible that the small stack has an underpair, but it is much more likely that he has an overpair or suited overcards. The fact remains that even if he has junk there is a very good chance his junk is overcarding you.
I don`t raise preflop, and I certainly don`t raise it in the regularly face of a raise. In a nutshell just weakly tighten up, the money is basically close.
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Last night, at my 15/30 game, I started out well enough. But the yesterday`s market gased me pretty bad, and I didn`t have my concentration together. There`s several fairly regular player who I have a good read on, who started busting the same old moves on me. Usually, I read them well, and outplay them. Last night for some reason, I felt I was punished enough for one day and layed down medium hands to stone bluffs. Two of them showed them to me, which in spite of brief interalized anger, I appreciated the information. I usually read them perfectly, and will pop a reraise on the end to fold them. But I was playing my B- game. I dropped $500, which isn`t much in this game, and left about 3 hours before my normal quitting time. My games notes remind me to repeat 100 times, "figure out what they want you to do, and dissappoint them."
I guess the analogy is if you`re not playing your A game, quit. Read, have a beer, watch TV, just don`t try and force yourself into a mode that should be spontaneous. Don`t worry about leaving stuck. Just clear your mind of poker for a bit, after thinking through your mistakes, and only when you think you`re back in stride play some more.
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Thus wait improperly wait wait..
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